In response, Mr Williams called ABC head of audio content Ben Latimer who, Media Watch alleges, passed a message down to editorial staff on Mr Gutman's behalf. After Mr Gutman repeatedly lobbied Mr Latimer, the executive contacted Mr Williams to tell him that Sandy Gutman was out of line, according to Media Watch. In response to the Media Watch segment, the ABC said in a statement: “In recent months ABC management spoke with Mr Gutman to express clear expectations of his behaviour to staff when pitching interviews and discuss how the ABC makes editorial decisions.