And I think that’s when I realised that that’s where I was like drifting towards. And just to give you a sense, John is a deep value investor. RYK VAN NIEKERK: John Biccard, you know, he calls himself a deep value investor in many ways. And if you look at who really is the guru of value investing, it’s Warren Buffett. And for me – well, a [deep value] investor will not be able to justify or will not be able to justify buying and Naspers or a Capitec.