SARAH GREEN CARMICHAEL: So Kira, you have studied in your academic research issues of race and diversity, and you’ve also consulted with companies to help put inclusion into practice with the Mouse and the Elephant. SARAH GREEN CARMICHAEL: I am glad you mentioned unconscious bias too because it does seem like we’re in a moment now when unconscious bias is this phrase that people have discovered and our talking about, which is great. Some people feel that there are some lines in terms of what we talk about and what we don’t, but oftentimes when it comes to immigration, depending on where you are, people feel pretty free to share their opinions, and the term illegal is often used.