SARAH GREEN CARMICHAEL: If, sort of, having a formal role of leadership makes you more likely to claim and also more likely to be granted, should you claim leadership, what are some of the other kind of aspects or characteristics of people who are more likely to be recognized as leaders? SUE ASHFORD: We studied for years, what are the personalities of people in leader roles, and we called them “leader personalities.” SARAH GREEN CARMICHAEL: If you are that person who wants to be seen more as a leader, do you start with, sort of, inward things and kind of developing yourself, or do you—is it, sort of, an outward performance, you know, what do you do?