DEBORAH ANCONA: Well, the entrepreneurial leaders, these are the folks that are kind of creating that frothy, bubble up innovation for the organization and they do so because they’re constantly coming up with new product ideas, with new business models, with new ways of organizing in the firm. DEBORAH ANCONA: Well, I do a lot of executive education and almost every company we see is wanting to make this move from bureaucracy, commanding control to more nimble distributed learning network, whatever word you want to use, kind of organization.