But if it does have to start there, then it has to start with recognizing that this ask is going to lead to a very uncomfortable space in which Black people, I’ll speak directly to Blackness and Black people, since my research centers that, but also I’m a Black person, and I know what it’s like to have white colleagues reach out to me in that moment and ask those questions. And asking directly, especially if it’s a number of individuals who’ve gotten together and are spearheading this grassroots work, bring it to their attention and say, I recognize, we recognize that this is something that you have, you, the organization, the leadership, finds to be an important cause, an important value that we want to project onto the business world, or whatever space you’re in.