I worry about the ability of humanity to change the planet, whether you’re talking about potential World War III with the Russians, or whether you’re talking about robots taking over the world and disruptive technologies or a new pandemic that would kill 10 or 20 or 100 times more than the 10 to 15 million that have already died from COVID, I mean all of those things are about human’s ability to affect the planet as opposed to just living on it and being affected by it. IAN BREMMER: One of the reasons we’re not in a cold world with China is the extraordinary economic interdependence between the two countries and the fact that private sector interests in both of those countries, which are very powerful, really want to ensure that that is not broken.