So for us, the scaling stage begins with confirmed product market fit and moves up a very steep growth curve to the point where a venture can declare that it not only has product market fit, but also profit market fit. For us, the problem with that is that we have been seeing, as I think anyone in the business world these days who have got an eye on the startup space, but especially the tech space, a lot of companies where they can be very successful on the road to product market fit, but the wheels come off the bus in some way during the scaling phase.