She wants to see us do a better job of normalizing things like anxiety, and says that leaders in organizations should not only talk more openly about mental ill health, but also acknowledge the ways that people grow and learn from these challenges if they figure out how to manage them correctly. I still have a really hard time, after all these years I’ve been doing The Anxious Achiever, getting people in charge of publicly traded companies or people with big jobs to come on my show and say, “I have an anxiety disorder. ALISON BEARD: You talked about layoffs, market, dynamics… So when the anxiety is coming from the building, so to speak… The organization itself is causing the anxiety, how should managers deal with that?