Which is to do a better job of keeping people a little bit longer or recruiting people who might be at an age that they would’ve otherwise disregarded, or finding ways to make age diversity part of their identity. KEN DYCHTWALD: So one of the interesting things is my company Age Wave has been surveying pre-retirees and retirees all over the world now for 25 years, and many older people, the new 50 and 60-year-olds are saying they want to keep working a few more years, but they don’t want to necessarily work full time and they’re open to trying different things.