We know that’s not a solution. That includes us having a safe place where we can get treatment that’s appropriate for us. JJ: Yeah, we talk about ending homelessness, but if that’s genuinely your goal, then criminalizing unhoused people just doesn’t work. So I think we just have to accept the idea that some of the people who talk about ending homelessness, that’s not their goal. SK: Yeah, I think that’s accurate.