I spoke to him about the rollout of the DSA, what to make of progress on trusted flaggers and out-of-court dispute resolution bodies, how transparency and reporting on things like 'systemic risk' is playing out, and whether the DSA is up to the ambitious goals policymakers set for it. I think the problem that we see now, although I checked today, they're already 10 trusted flaggers, certainly more coming up, I think the problem we might face going forward is that we don't have sufficient financial incentive and I think going forward, that's actually one of the things I'm thinking about these days is how we could develop financial incentives for trusted flaggers.