However, users on Reddit have some slightly different arguments, with the north starting in wildly different areas. One person mentioned using local news channels to decide where the boundary is. Another person responded by saying Lincolnshire is split between the north and south, with Scunthorpe and Grimsby being northern towns. "(Crewe is another prominent 'gateway' between the North and the Midlands, of course - especially if I'm travelling by rail!)" According to this Reddit thread, the debate is still alive and looks like it will not be solved any time soon.