Reform UK Wales MS Nigel Williams – representing Fflint Wrecsam – asked Senedd health minister and Gwynedd Maldwyn MS Mabon ap Gwynfor whether it was time to take extreme measures and put BCUHB under the control of a non-Welsh health board. Mr ap Gwynfor swiftly dismissed the idea. One of the names in the frame for Mr ap Gwynfor’s well-led expert panel is respected NHS troubleshooter Donna Ockenden. But Mr ap Gwynfor warned Senedd members she may not have the capacity to join the panel. In response Mr Ap Gwynfor said he would be keen to get her involved – although it might not be possible.