Whatley claims she won a total of $11,000 from her participation in Fishback’s anti-woke debate program, “Incubate Debate.” Yet when Whatley won a total of $11,000 at the tournaments, Fishback was slow to cough up the cash. While the money was supposed to be paid upon Whatley’s high school graduation in May 2025, she claims Fishback dodged her requests to pay the money for months. Asked about the debt, Fishback claims he has paid Whatley since her lawsuit was filed. For longtime Fishback watchers, the idea of Fishback owing someone money doesn’t seem outlandish.