Nathaniel Perullo, 2025 Under 19 National Boulder Champion of the U.S., and John O’Sullivan, founder of Changing the Game project, are two top examples. A lot of parents think that “we’ve got to stop [making] this being fun and we’ve got to be serious.” And I want to teach my kids things through sport. I want them to learn resilience, I want them to learn discipline, I want them to learn to do hard things because in life you do hard things and it doesn’t get easier. Listen to the complete podcast with Nathaniel Perullo here:Listen to the complete podcast with John O’Sullivan here:Adriana Mariño is the producer and host of Bend into Balance.