But I don’t think I’d be 15 years in if I hadn’t been doing this passionately. It’s because I love music. I don't care how long you've been in the industry, how big of a big dog you is, you gotta stay tapped in. As big as he is, he still stays tapped into what the real listeners are listening to, and those are the real people that catapult these artists. I have a lot of younger brothers, younger cousins, younger friends that keep me tapped in with the new sound.