Once you're a grown-up, you can look back and see how freely kids feel their emotions, how amazing kids are at making new friends, how free their imagination is. - SHAPIRO-BARNUM: Well, you know, kids imagine constantly. - SHAPIRO-BARNUM: You know, I'm always comparing my work to the Bible. I don't like kids, or, like, I don't know how you work with kids like that. MARTÍNEZ: Julian Shapiro-Barnum is the creator and host of web series Recess Therapy and also the author of "How To Grow Up Without Becoming A Grown-Up."