“I was indoctrinated by American corporations as part of an orchestrated plan to move us into rock ‘n’ roll," Jillette told me in 2014. "All that a driver’s license meant to me was the freedom to be able to see rock ‘n’ roll," he explained. "I was pretty into that New York rock 'n' roll scene. "After the show, Lou came up and said, 'This isn’t a magic show, this is rock and roll'," Jillette recalled. It’s basic dirty rock ‘n’ roll, no barriers are being pushed at all, but there’s a lot of blasphemy and a lot of sex.