I just didn’t want to talk about Donald Trump,” Shapiro-Barnum said on Obsessed: The Podcast. Julian Shapiro-Barnum leaves the politics to other mainstream late-night hosts. Julian Shapiro-Barnum launched "Outside Tonight," calling the web series "the future of late night." Since then, network late-night shows from hosts like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel have come under fire from the Trump administration. Shapiro-Barnum has said that Outside Tonight—and its innovative approach to a traditional format—are rescuing late-night from its uncertain future.