“I understand fandom and have a very strong barometer for what young women are looking at as fans,” she says. “I can still access a part of me that is that young 16-year-old, going to the Roxy [in Los Angeles], and have that guide a lot of my decision-making.” McRae, meanwhile, grossed $110.8 million on her Miss Possessive Tour in 2025, including two sold-out nights at New York’s Madison Square Garden that grossed $4 million total. “Gracie could have sold out many, many, many more Barclays [shows] than four,” Nury says, nodding to the sky-high postpandemic demand not just for Abrams but for major pop tours. “We decided collectively to take a bow at four, and we were always going to hold the line at four.”