MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:Let's turn to a member of the committee that summoned Dr. Fauci for questioning. What's your take on Dr. Fauci invoking his Fifth Amendment rights throughout the hearing? They've cut research grants under the NIH, which Dr. Fauci led for some 38 years. The lessons there really should be explored, but this hearing was designed to embarrass and perhaps perjure the witness here, Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci has an extraordinarily distinguished record in public health, leading Americans through HIV, swine flu, SARS, Zika, Ebola and other epidemics.