The Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination is not without boundaries. However, pardons create the rare exception to the use of the Fifth Amendment. Fauci claims that Paul is trying to spring a perjury trap on him today, but the Fifth Amendment cannot be used to avoid it, especially when a pardon exists. And as long as the questions focus on the period covered by the pardon, Fauci is required to testify. Because of this, Fauci cannot hide behind the Fifth Amendment any longer and must respond to subpoenas and testify on these matters.