The victims’ money, the trauma, the cost society paid to arrest the criminals safely? I spent 28 years watching episodes of this macabre series called crime in Brazil. A prisoner produces nothing: imprisoning criminals is expensive and repairs none of the victims’ losses. What Becker calls waste, Rothbard calls injustice, and these two are almost never on the same side of anything. I carried that objection for years, and it made me see libertarians as dreamers who had never personally met cruel criminals.