On July 8 2018 the neuroscientist and New Atheist luminary, Sam Harris, sat down for an interview with conservative commentator Ben Shapiro. It also fails a key rule of thumb that can be applied to any claim about the fall of the Roman Empire. It would be interesting to see Sam Harris tell a Varangian that he was not a “true soldier”. I also cannot think of too many “values” that the pre-conversion Roman Empire held to that the later Empire “eroded”. Just as Harris knows nothing of the causes of the fall of the Roman Empire.