Welcome to Two Drinks, the column where The Free Press catches up with a newsmaker, trendsetter, or power broker. This week, Madeleine Kearns sits down with America’s second most famous bishop (after the Pope, of course)—Bishop Robert Barron—to discuss his work with the White House, his media empire, why trad Caths think he’s a liberal squish, his impressions of the Pope, J.D. Bishop Robert Barron did not expect the success he’s had. He began his Catholic media empire, Word on Fire, with the simple conviction that the Church should be more involved in mass media. Today, Word on Fire has over two million subscribers on the latter platform, plus 3.1 million Facebook followers and many more on Instagram and X.