In this conversation, Justin Ahrens, founder of Rule29, and host Gage Mitchell discuss the profound impact of design on the human condition, emphasizing the importance of understanding the real problems that design can solve. They explore the shift from a shareholder to a stakeholder economy, the role of data in design, and the significance of design thinking in creating sustainable and measurable impact. Ahrens and Mitchell discuss the importance of breaking down silos in design initiatives, the methodologies for design for impact, and the holistic approach to design that considers the environment and human experience. They conclude by sharing exciting projects they’re working on, now and in the future, and their vision for a better world through intentional design and community engagement. Read the transcript and find links from the episode at Brands for a Better World.