This week on the DesignThinkers podcast, host Nicola Hamilton is joined by Debra Bishop, an award-winning creative director and one of the most influential voices in editorial design. The project published its final issue at the end of August, though Bishop continues her work at the Times. We also explore why she still believes in the enduring power of magazines—even as the industry continues to evolve. DesignThinkers Podcast is back for a third season! Purchase tickets to the upcoming DesignThinkers conference at designthinkers.com.