Frank Clark, MD, hosts Julia Rodes, MD, a fourth-year resident at the Medical University of South Carolina, on this episode of Psyched Perspectives to discuss integrative approaches to chronic pain. Rodes emphasized the shared neural pathways between chronic pain and mood disorders, advocating for a biopsychosocial model of treatment. Rodes shared her personal journey with chronic pain and her focus on connection, acceptance and commitment, and change. She noted that she realized her visible chronic pain made some clinicians and patients question her qualifications. Dr Rodes is a fourth-year resident at the Medical University of South Carolina.