In 2018, he had the opportunity to join Adams 12 Five Star Schools near Denver, Colorado as the operations manager. However, he only served in that role for a few months before becoming the transportation director. “He was big on providing leadership books, leadership trainings and courses,” he said, adding that the district also offered training from outside consultants to help with leadership. He explained that there have been opportunities within the school district to move up, but he was expanding his family and personally, he said. One of those is absolutely the leadership and the support that you get,” he said.