As Orange and Brown Talk podcast host Dan Labbe pointed out, perception is often influenced by factors that have little to do with actual coaching ability. He helped guide Lamar Jackson to an MVP award and created one of the NFL’s most dynamic offensive attacks. I mean, you don’t mess with Todd Monken. Listen to the full Orange and Brown Talk podcast episode where the hosts break down every angle of Cleveland’s coaching hire and what it means for the team’s future. Here’s the latest podcast:Listen and subscribe to the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.