Dr Harris said Mr Grant had not believed he nor actor Steve Coogan should be the 'poster boys' for Hacked Off. High-profile legal action against newspaper groups formed part of that strategy, Dr Harris told the High Court. Asked yesterday what the 'no tickee' phrase meant, Dr Harris said: 'It means if you don't produce you don't get paid.' Mr White, for Associated, suggested Dr Harris and Mr Johnson had paid witnesses for their evidence. Dr Harris replied: 'The suggestion that I or he paid for testimony is not right.'